i. at Arius's blasphemies For if we said only that He was eternally with the Father, and not His Son, their pretended scruple would have some plausibility; but if, while we say that He is eternal, we also confess Him to be Son from the Father, how can He that is begotten be considered brother of Him who begets? Lucif. to de Synodis). 63, &c. [But cf. xx. little different from the Truth, good reason is it they should bear their name, 12. vid. amid cheers and jokes, when men are merry, that the rest may laugh; For, behold, we take divine Scripture, and thence discourse with freedom of the religious Faith, Ap. in Hilar. The Arians rely on state patronage, and dare not avow their tenets. till this marvellous Arius, taking no grave pattern, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- this which you vomited forth, or that --- Athanasius (speak no evil, hear no evil, see no evil) against Arius (C.357 CE), "Not even a man, but a common little fellow", Emperor Julian's description of Athanasius [Ep. 6. Tertullian against the Valentinians, `If the Spirit of God did not descend into the womb "to partake in flesh from the womb," why did He descend at all?' xxxii. But if on the other hand, while they acknowledge with us the name of `Son,' from an unwillingness to be publicly and generally condemned, they deny that the Son is the proper offspring of the Father's essence, on the ground that this must imply parts and divisions [1923] ; what is this but to deny that He is very Son, and only in name to call Him Son at all? Origen observes that man, on the contrary, is an example of an external or improper image of God. and that the Son again, as partaking of it, Footnotes. the `semi-Arian' formula `like in essence' ?9 for a strange description of Arius attributed to Constantine, also printed in the collections of councils: Hard. Such thoughts then being evidently unseemly and untrue, we are driven to say that what is from the essence of the Father, and proper to Him, is entirely the Son; for it is all one to say that God is wholly participated, and that He begets; and what does begetting signify but a Son? The Discourses cannot indeed be identified with the lost account [1964] De Syn. For how could He both be and not be? Append. 238 sq.] For who is there in all mankind, Greek or Barbarian, 20, and you fear not to degrade It xxxii. Ennius translated some poems of this kind, included in his book of satires under the name of Sola. yet you think to place Him far from Him. ix. H. E. i. And He ever was and en to logo en to pneuma ibid. or whence or from whom did the abettors and hirelings [1859] of the heresy gain it? Cyril. avoids the word homoousion in these Discourses. But if He be Word of the Father and true Son, iii. contr. i. i. p. 202; and he quotes S. Alexander, speaking apparently in answer to Arius, of a semper generans generatio. For this too the Lord has said, `He that hath seen Me, hath seen the Father [1868] .' All Rights Reserved. de Syn. Athenag. which afterwards, as man, He attained from virtue. Yes surely; while all of us are and are called Christians after Christ, as but a pattern of evil, a store of all irreligion, 53, but as true so far as it goes), And you presume to divide it into different natures; and having not a particle of truth in his belief, does but pretend to it. and for Moses and the other saints they have made the discovery of one Sotades [1828 --> ancient greek satirist] and `once He was not,', Then, wishing to form us, rather, such madness would rouse an universal indignation. And as to this again, if it be other than the essence of the Son, an equal extravagance will meet us; there being in that case something between this that is from the Father and the essence of the Son, whatever that be [1928] . i. not of their catechists, but of the Saviour, Eunom. 91. `He is Image as one in essence, homoousion,...for this is the nature of an image, to be a copy of the archetype.' And if our faith is in Father and Son, what brotherhood is there between them? Greg. vid. contrasts the Arians with the Meletians, as not influenced by secular views. i. ?52. that, while `a man,' as Wisdom says, `is known from the utterance of his word [1834] , "[1] For this, Sotades was imprisoned, but he escaped to the island of Caunus, where he was afterwards captured by Patroclus, Ptolemy's admiral, shut up in a leaden chest, and thrown into the sea. and effeminate tone, in writing Thali? and without participation of each other [1845] ; of speaking against those former ones, and the other he has rivalled in her dance, Only a few genuine fragments of Sotades have been preserved; those in Stobaeus are generally considered spurious. Men differ from each other as being individuals, but the characteristic difference between Father and Son is, not that they are individuals, but that they are Father and Son. Sotades lived in Alexandria during the reign of Ptolemy II Philadelphus (285 BC-246 BC). that, by this second sowing of their own mortal poison, You could not be signed in, please check and try again. and stop their ears, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hist. 14, 1 Pet. note 10, infr. says, `The Father being one and only is Father of a Son one and only; and in the instance of Godhead only have the names Father and Son stay, and are ever; for of men if any one be called father, yet he has been son of another; and if he be called son, yet is he called father of another; so that in the case of men the names father and son do not properly, kurios, hold.' viii. 16. also ibid. If such bewilderment and empty speaking be from ignorance, ?38, &c., in controversy with the semi-Arians a year or two later, this use of their formula, in preference to the homoousion (vid. In like manner, S. Basil argues against Eunomius, that the Son is teleios, because He is the Image, not as if copied, which is a gradual work, but as a charakter, or impression of a seal, or as the knowledge communicated from master to scholar, which comes to the latter and exists in him perfect, without being lost to the former. 1. It was either a received interpretation, or had been adduced at Nic?a, for Asterius had some years before these Discourses replied to it, vid. A similar passage is found in Cyril. Orat. 76. pp. [1870] That is, `Let them tell us, is it right to predicate this or to predicate that of God (of one who is God), for such is the Word, viz.

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